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Iommic Pope wrote:This is the best you've been.
Suffering suits you.
BitchPudding wrote:Let this be written in our history as proof that ILoveFuzz is one tight knit internet family.
PeteeBee wrote:So here’s a thing about jokes. They’re entirely situational right? And we don’t all necessarily have the same view of what this situation (or in life, most situations) is/are. Like jwar started this to have a real conversation about things and process what to do with this information, potentially how to be a better friend and advocate as well as avoid accidentally offending. The accidental offense is on my mind all the time at least. Jokes detract from this. Maybe not a small one as an example of what you’re trying to communicate, but if you’re just popping in to make a joke, that is just detracting from the conversation and shuts down people’s willingness to open up and participate because all of a sudden their experience is potential joke bait and has already been made light of. No one wants to be the “no fun police/peace office” but there is a big difference between a comedian and a conversation with friends over their real hurt and confusion.
ummohyeah wrote:Godspeed rule and no amount of tape would make their pedalboards safe from my cum.
aens_wife wrote:Adam, please don't apologize for trying to have this conversation that needs to be had. This thread wasn't what upset me today.
But for the record, I am married to AEN. I know how to take a joke. I think inappropriate jokes/dirty jokes/off color jokes/whatever are fucking hilarious - in the right moment, with the right people. I do not think that rape jokes on a stage with an audience full of strangers are EVER OK, unless you are joking about your own experiences. I don't want to see white people make jokes about lynching, for example. I don't want to see men joke about raping women. It just isn't funny ever. IDC.
What was going on in this thread was none of that. When you said that you'd have a bad time if someone was poking fun at your specific trauma, Rusty, I immediately think about how most women have shitty stories about men and power and sex. Some are worse than others and some women seem to handle them "better" than others (whatever that means), but most have them. That means that when you joke about assault or rape or harassment, MOST WOMEN ARE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME SO JUST DON'T DO IT.
The Velvet Hammer wrote:comesect2.0 is taking a months break from ILF.
As you were.
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
popvulture wrote:Corey Y wrote:jrfox92 wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
Ugh.
In before "The 70's were a different time maaaaan" nonsense.
Ha! I was just having this conversation today with a coworker. Not in the forgiving/permissive sense, but just saying that really did happen a lot more back then. A HUGE number of rock guys were known to have slept with 15-ish year old girls. So damn creepy.
hbombgraphics wrote:You are correct about the lack of justice, and anger is absolutely a valid response in some ways. I would caution that Violence is probably not a good workaround to our embarrassing justice system.
friendship wrote:You motherfuckers think I won't fuck up a couple octoroks and assemble the Triforce?
aens_wife wrote:Why wouldn't we want to be kinder to those around us?
D.o.S. wrote:aens_wife wrote:Why wouldn't we want to be kinder to those around us?
Well is it this or is it the "people are so awful, duck people they're all shite" tack? If it can be both -- and let's not kid ourselves it's always both -- how do we square a "why don't we want to be kinder?" with "hey new poster die in a fire"?
Also I'm not editing your post because I'm ignoring it, just that is like some clarity on this particular point.
D.o.S. wrote:I mostly agree with that (which is why I didn't ask
There is a difference between free speech that has merit and free speech that doesn't, and it's fairly easy litmus test for most people.
aens_wife wrote:Adam, please don't apologize for trying to have this conversation that needs to be had. This thread wasn't what upset me today.
But for the record, I am married to AEN. I know how to take a joke. I think inappropriate jokes/dirty jokes/off color jokes/whatever are fucking hilarious - in the right moment, with the right people. I do not think that rape jokes on a stage with an audience full of strangers are EVER OK, unless you are joking about your own experiences. I don't want to see white people make jokes about lynching, for example. I don't want to see men joke about raping women. It just isn't funny ever. IDC.
What was going on in this thread was none of that. When you said that you'd have a bad time if someone was poking fun at your specific trauma, Rusty, I immediately think about how most women have shitty stories about men and power and sex. Some are worse than others and some women seem to handle them "better" than others (whatever that means), but most have them. That means that when you joke about assault or rape or harassment, MOST WOMEN ARE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME SO JUST DON'T DO IT.
rfurtkamp wrote:The only transparent thing I own is a set of drinking glasses.
Gunner Recall wrote:This thread is bad and everyone in it should feel bad.
Iommic Pope wrote:This thread is mediocre at best, but I encourage everyone posting in it to feel as awesome as possible.
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