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Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:00 pm
by behndy
don't remember his name, but dooder that plays Troy from Community apparently raps as well, and had a ramble where he talked about listening to a song he was working on in the car, picked up a friendo, she said, "is this you? you.... listen to..... yourself?". went on about how art is so odd because it's the one vocation where you can't enjoy your own work. or you're WEIRD.

"i mean, say you work at Subway. and after work, you go home anf make yourself a BOMB ASS SAMMICH. when you're about to eat it, no one is going to say, 'oh. going to eat a sandwich you made? CONCEITED.' right?"

valid point? he's wrong and it's Flicking Your Imagination Bean when you bump music you made/hang your own art/revel in your output?

tl; dr - y'all enjoy your own stuff? is that being up in your ass or normal?

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:05 pm
by Chankgeez
Why would somebody even make music if they didn't like listening to their own stuff though?

behndy wrote:don't remember his name, but dooder that plays Troy from Community


Isn't that what Google or IMDb is fo'?

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:06 pm
by Corey Y
The vast majority of the music I've made in the past 5 years has been exclusively listened to by me, ha.

We only view it as ego because those people get paid to make music and it's their "career", so if other people pay and praise them, it's more virtuous to be humble and self-depreciating. Meanwhile, most people who make music just love music and would (or are) doing it for free. So why shouldn't they listen to and enjoy music they made. People sew clothes to wear themselves. People take photos and paint paintings and hang them on their wall. People bake bread and eat it. I don't see how it's masturbatory to enjoy something you make.

Donald Glover aka Childish Gambino, by the way.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:13 pm
by tremolo3
Chankgeez wrote:Why would somebody even make music if they didn't like listening to their own stuff though?


Javier Bardem doesn't watch his films because he doesn't like his voice.




I can't even watch that fucking nose, that fucking voice, those ridiculous eyes. I can't handle that.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:59 pm
by popvulture
I have huge problems with most of my own stuff. Hate the sound of my voice. Always shit I wish I could change. Yet the self-torture continues.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:03 pm
by Blackened Soul
My general reason for making my own music is usually because I want to listen to something that doesn't exist...

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:11 pm
by Chankgeez
tremolo3 wrote:
Javier Bardem doesn't watch his films because he doesn't like his voice.


I don't like Javier Bardem's voice either, friendo, but that doesn't stop me from watching his movies. :idk:

(His hairstyles are always second to none.)

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:14 pm
by behndy
GLOVER. hah. yeah, knew i knew it, but too lazy at work to do googlings.

that's what Tom Jenkinson said about his early albums, he just made it because it was something to listen to and it wasn't out there.

i agree, i like listening to things i wubble out. but it's also nerve wracking because there's so many things i want to change and it never feels done.

but, it's always seemed weird that most people think you're trying to self-fellate if you bump your own Art Loots.

is Childish Gambino good? never listened.

EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BARDEMSTER IS BEAUTIFUL AND DESIRABLE.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:19 pm
by friendship
I finished an instrumental record recently and it's probably the first thing I ever made that I enjoyed listening to after I finished it. It's not amazing or anything but maybe I finally succeeded in making the kind of music I want to listen to? It's also the first thing I've made where I made an active effort not to think about what I was doing while I was doing it, so in a way it doesn't really feel like *I* made it. So maybe the only way I can enjoy smelling my own butthole is when I don't feel that the butthole is connected to me.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:26 pm
by popvulture
That is sigworthy right there. Disconnected butthole. :)*

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:29 pm
by Chankgeez
I just listened to an Ahmad Jamal interview where he gets asked about listening to his own recorded music:

Listen from about 17:30:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjZKWPljcNQ

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:40 pm
by D.o.S.
It's a bit of a false dichotomy, because like someone said earlier being humble about what you do is a good thing -- no one likes hubris, after all - but the logical endpoint of "I don't listen to my own music" begs the question "well then why should anyone?"

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:48 pm
by MechaGodzilla
First of all, S-rank thread title. Great job benhdy.

Secondly, the subway guys aren't necessarily great sandwich craftsmen. They could be replaced with robotic arms that understand ingredient names and your order would taste the same (disappointing).

On topic, listening to myself is nerve wracking coz I'm mainly a live player. So if I hear mistakes, that was the product as it appeared to others, so I wince and don't listen to that recording again lol. There's no tracking, retracking, processing until it's right. If I did more of that kind of shit, I'd probably listen hard to my own stuff! :lol: I want to get into singing but my range/control/guitar-singing-multitasking SUCK and no recording I've heard of myself has ever hinted differently. Should just stick to guitar I guess.

popvulture wrote:That is sigworthy right there. Disconnected butthole. :)*

Less fun than it sounds. Source: me, an ileostomy haver.

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:28 pm
by behndy
MechaGodzilla wrote:First of all, S-rank thread title. Great job benhdy.


DESCRIPTIVE nooooo?

score one for Private School Education!

Re: Masturbatory Talent Baths

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:12 pm
by tremolo3
Chankgeez wrote:I don't like Javier Bardem's voice either, friendo


And just when I was about to ask for baritone friendo-like recommendations, stuff like Lee Hazlewood and the man who passed away last year. :poke: