Brandsmannen wrote:Wrote way too much on the first point on the migrant thing, but I decided to delete because it swayed a lot from the topic and was just… long.
The thing about PC though is that this kinda thing is not new. This debate is always on the table whenever there is more polarization in society between the political camps. Research has shown that words we typically use and see certainly affect the way we think, so in a sense, yes it is thought control. But what is the alternative? Thought control works both ways in that case. The left accuse the moderate right/center for normalization of the far right with a similar argument. And if any of this is true, I'd prefer society that at least strives to be tolerant to people regardless of outside attributes. Being "politically correct" has become such a smear word and in some groups they just see any act that is in some way for equality part of some PC-conspiracy. Maybe what is politically correct is different in our respective places though, but that's the way I kinda see it
Well, tax financed welfare actually benefits from a large population, especially in countries that is well off economically, so I don't think that should be a problem
The alternative is the allowance of free-speech and thought and approach situations through actual discussion and not rhetoric, sophistry and ad hominem attacks. We are all human and that transcends political parties and thus all people in all political parties and subject to committing these errors in reasoning. My issue is that the "left" is currently doing this a lot with regards to Islam in particular as well as other areas and they are blind to it because they think they are 'on the right side' and are self-righteous.
The creation of norms is a tricky thing. I'd like it to be the norm that any child anywhere in the world - if he or she comes at as gay to there parents/friends. etc. - is treated not with hate or violence but with love and acceptance. I'm straight but care deeply about human rights. Someone may disagree with me on that being a norm but I'd happy discuss with them why I think that should be the case and I wouldn't want to force that as a norm onto people. I'd want their to use their reason to see how love and acceptance/understanding, or their gay child is the most appropriate choice.
The left is trying to force things by using threats of being a racist or bigot if one does not accept their view of things
Brandsmannen wrote:So my super long deleted post about Norway and Sweden was correct then
We definitely aren't what we were. I fear that Sweden next election might go the Norwegian road with biggest right wing party in coalition with our populist/racist party. Even though I think the Sweden democrats are worse than fremskrittspartiet.
It is so weird I love the thing that keeps me frustrated all the fucking time.
It seems (unfortunately) that the more right-leaning parties are the only ones addressing the refugee issue because the left is too afraid to voice any criticisms because of political correctness.
It seems European countries' social welfare programs work because you have a small population - or small by USA's size - in which people pay into. If more refugees keep coming it, that is going to heavily deplete that social system.
(SHOG is now my favorite word for swedish head of government)
I try to keep up with politics in most in like Australia and Canada too but sometimes it becomes a bit much. I need to endlessly scour the internet for cool guitar gear too, and one can only do so much
