Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses



Moderator: Ghost Hip

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby dminner » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:17 pm

ck3 wrote:That optical ring mod looks to be teh seks. How does it differ from something like a Minifooger R-mod?


I am not sure any other ring mod works the way the optical ring does. When I designed it I didn’t really know much about ring mods so it works in somewhat of an inconvential way. The carrier signal is actually an optical theremin based circuit. The guitar goes through a fuzz circuit with led clippings and leds control the pitch and volume of the optical theremin carrier. This is what lend the name optical ring and how it creates unique wind down and pitch bending effects with your playing without the need for an expression pedal :)
dminner

FAMOUS
FAMOUS
 
Posts: 1034
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:11 pm

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:31 pm

Yeah, definitely wanna try out an Optical Ring. :snax:

Also, I believe this's a V1 Randy's Revenge in case anyone's lookin' for one:

https://reverb.com/item/15352073-fairfi ... -modulator

Image
"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
Sweet dealin's: here
"...a benevolent dictatorship can be O.K. for as long as the benevolence lasts…” - Hardy Green
#cultofGreenRinger
Chankgeez

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 36256
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 am
Location: Ca$hadelphia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:13 pm

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
Sweet dealin's: here
"...a benevolent dictatorship can be O.K. for as long as the benevolence lasts…” - Hardy Green
#cultofGreenRinger
Chankgeez

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 36256
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 am
Location: Ca$hadelphia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby comesect2.0 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:19 pm

So 65 bucks for a circuit board basically
comesect2.0

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 4372
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm
Location: TX

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:26 pm

dminner wrote:
ck3 wrote:That optical ring mod looks to be teh seks. How does it differ from something like a Minifooger R-mod?


I am not sure any other ring mod works the way the optical ring does. When I designed it I didn’t really know much about ring mods so it works in somewhat of an inconvential way. The carrier signal is actually an optical theremin based circuit. The guitar goes through a fuzz circuit with led clippings and leds control the pitch and volume of the optical theremin carrier. This is what lend the name optical ring and how it creates unique wind down and pitch bending effects with your playing without the need for an expression pedal :)

So you use the act of the LEDs lighting up when clipping to control the LDR for the theremin? I was fooling around with the Nurse Quacky envelope and LDRs on a few things recently... I like your idea. Running a clipping pair to ground through a B10k or whatever probs gives you a sensititvy control I'd imagine too.

I have a MFOS ring mod, and you can plug in all kinds of stuff for your carrier or multiplier, pretty fantastic design. Uses the 633 multiplier chip.. pretty cool design.

I love ring mods
BetterOffShred

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 3202
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:01 pm

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby jrfox92 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:37 pm

As far as I can tell, the PAiA is just a Craig Anderton Ring Mod kit.
Since I always forget:

Inconuucl wrote:You can't kill Strymon, it'll just resurrect 3 days later.

BitchPudding wrote:Despite all my rage, I am still just eating tacos in a cage.

Inconuucl wrote:Welcome to ilf, we have three jokes and twelve posters. <3
jrfox92

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 4390
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:23 am
Location: Akron, Ohio

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:42 pm

If it's anything like my Mossapotamus CA, it'll be a nice (very) grimy ring mod :love:
Dandolin

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 4807
Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:33 pm
Location: On the pharm in PA

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby LaoWiz » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:14 am

Chankgeez wrote:Beat up & apparently RARE:

https://reverb.com/item/15484185-rare-p ... -diy-pedal

Image


Fuck it, I bought this. I made a few versions of this from Scott from Montreal Assembly's PCBs way back. I always loved it because of the effects loop as I always loved running delay and fuzz in parallel with the Ring Mod. This was cheap and will be easy to clean up. Will be interesting to see how it sounds compared to Scott's old boards. It's the same circuit as the one on the Mossapotamus site. :joy:
LaoWiz

User avatar
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 1774
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:03 pm

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:41 am

Dope man. Let us know :)
BetterOffShred

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 3202
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:01 pm

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:15 pm

LaoWiz wrote:
Fuck it, I bought this. I made a few versions of this from Scott from Montreal Assembly's PCBs way back. I always loved it because of the effects loop as I always loved running delay and fuzz in parallel with the Ring Mod. This was cheap and will be easy to clean up. Will be interesting to see how it sounds compared to Scott's old boards. It's the same circuit as the one on the Mossapotamus site. :joy:


:!!!: :yay: :snax:
"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
Sweet dealin's: here
"...a benevolent dictatorship can be O.K. for as long as the benevolence lasts…” - Hardy Green
#cultofGreenRinger
Chankgeez

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 36256
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 am
Location: Ca$hadelphia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:25 am

Looks like jonnyangle's sellin' his "Monoloth":

https://reverb.com/item/15978583-rma-monoloth

Image
"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
Sweet dealin's: here
"...a benevolent dictatorship can be O.K. for as long as the benevolence lasts…” - Hardy Green
#cultofGreenRinger
Chankgeez

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 36256
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 am
Location: Ca$hadelphia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:32 am

I'd buy it to compare to current and correct all the early "flaws", but I'm pedge until years end.

If memory serves, that unit would benefit from an output volume control.
D.o.S. wrote:This thing is like the Blue Box on the amount of acid that lands you in the ER pretending to play it straight while you try and ignore the fact that the walls are dripping oil.


Rochambeau Musical Apparatus
Reverb storefront
Shark Tank
crochambeau

User avatar
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
 
Posts: 1708
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:49 pm
Location: Cascadia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:09 pm

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
Sweet dealin's: here
"...a benevolent dictatorship can be O.K. for as long as the benevolence lasts…” - Hardy Green
#cultofGreenRinger
Chankgeez

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 36256
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 am
Location: Ca$hadelphia

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 am

It's like a Skippy with a couple more features.. ;)
BetterOffShred

User avatar
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
 
Posts: 3202
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:01 pm

Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby ck3 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:12 pm

A Pigtronix Ringmaster arrived earlier today. I had an hour or so to do some tinkering with it placed in my amp's effects loop. Per the usual protocol, I did so without reading a manual and was eventually able to deduce how the knobs and switches interact. So far, it seems muffled, overly clippy, and and meh aside from hypnotic glitchiness and synth-like textures possible when engaging the intelligent, LFO, and sample hold ring modulation modes. The tremolo seems pretty weak and unwieldy compared to other options on hand, but may just need to be tweaked better. There is also the distinct possibility the pedal may sound better in front of my amp, though I can already tell that the included power supply will generate a noticeable amount of unwanted noise. More experimentation is in order before rendering a final verdict.
ck3

User avatar
experienced
experienced
 
Posts: 966
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:59 pm
Location: Southcentral, CT, USA

PreviousNext

Return to General Gear



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests


Sponsored Ad. (Please no inflated/repetitive clicking. Thanks!)

Advertisements help support ILF


ilovefuzz.com is not responsible for user-submitted content. Users participate at their own discretion and risk.