Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

[Ryan]

No hum or hiss with either my RRR or CCv3 off my Fuel Tank Jr. :)

Cool! Is it a hard-click RRR?

Just got an RRR for the first time. I plugged it in using a strymon power supply that comes with the Timeline, Mobius, etc. which is supposed to be 1000 mA. It works great with other pedals but it does seem cheap compared to something like a OneSpot.

Anyway, lots of noise with the RRR (and a bit of noise if I use it with the Cosmichorus). The Cosmichorus is silent on a PP2+ so I suspect when I get time to plug the RRR into that as well it will be fine.

When a company gives you a power supply it's because it costs them basically nothing, is almost always unregulated and unfiltered, and it means that their pedal is probably internally regulated/filtered in a way that it doesn't care what you plug into it. Digital pedals that digitize the whole signal can get away with this pretty easily.

The RRR is a mix of analog and digital and the digital section is spread over 3 separate chips, not the usual one big chip that does everything, and it's picky about the power that's plugged in.

[jmoote]

Strymon claims an analog dry path, but yes I suspect there is tons of internal power regulation and filtering and all it really needs to see is the voltage with enough current and it can go from there.

Given my success with the Cosmichorus (and just about any other pedal) on the PP2+ I am not worried.

[yallerhon]

No hum or hiss with either my RRR or CCv3 off my Fuel Tank Jr.

Cool! Is it a hard-click RRR?

It's a hard-click teal on-the-airberator, part of the all-Dr-Sci board I posted on your FB wall the other day

[oinkbanana]

This thread is now of interest to me with my new Red On-The-Air-berator
I've never had any problems with my offtheAirMiniRRR (even with the new CC), so to test my new pedal I straight swapped them and the redtv was a hummer, where the offtheAirMiniRRR has never made a peep. hmm
i'm gonna run some more tests on monday after reading the details in this thread. might make it to my practice space tomorrow if time permits.

here's the board setup, with two voodoo labs ISO5 underneath.

[goroth]

Try running it on the 400mA output - the other four outputs only have 100mA each, and that could be your trouble.

[Holy Schnikes]

I hated my Fuel Tank Chameleon. Beyond causing random hum issues with 9V pedals, the 18V setting would never work properly no matter what pedal we're talking.

CIOKS and Voodoo Labs if you're wanting an isolated multi-supply. That's what I'd suggest.

Oh, as for the Strymon supply, I've had many issues using it with anything other than Strymon stuff tho ymmv.

[oinkbanana]

Try running it on the 400mA output - the other four outputs only have 100mA each, and that could be your trouble.

the 400mA are for the eventide pedals.
I'm sure between the two ISO5 i can switch things around, run the RRR with the ODB-3 on the 9v 100mA taps.
I believe right now the RRR is on the same ISO5 as the CC, Tremolessence, WIIO (18v) & modfactor.
I'm just surprised that one miniRRR doesn't perform like another.

[Ryan]

Kev, the difference is the red tv has a relay and a micro for the switching... it needs about 30mA more than the hard-clicker version and seems much more prone to humming. Double regulators, double micros.. it's a hummer...

[myrrh]

Anyone tested the diago isolator yet?

[oinkbanana]

I rearrange the power, and no more buzzing.
but my bandmate added two eventide pedals to his board and now he's got buzzing. we'll get that sorted next practice.

[myrrh]

Well I bought a Diago Isolator, and it hummed just as bad as before. Tried it both ways, connected to the pedal and conected to the fuel tank. In a Daisy chain and alone. Delivering it back tomorrow.

Just have to use an additional adapter for now.

[mathias]

Just got my Mini-RRR and no noise problems on a 1spot daisy chain with other pedals (mostly fuzz/OD, but also a random Ibanez chorus in there, and my Ghost Echo..)

It's so great! I love it!

[Atrox]

Just got my Mini-RRR and no noise problems on a 1spot daisy chain with other pedals (mostly fuzz/OD, but also a random Ibanez chorus in there, and my Ghost Echo..)

It's so great! I love it!

Same here, KFK Q-Zone - Pigtronix Phil Rock - Rat - Elements - Miniberator, all with a one spot and no noise at all. I'm really relieved that I don't have to buy one of those retardedly priced voodoo labs... but I would have done it, the RRR is just fantastic

[goroth]

Well I bought a Diago Isolator, and it hummed just as bad as before. Tried it both ways, connected to the pedal and conected to the fuel tank. In a Daisy chain and alone. Delivering it back tomorrow.

Just have to use an additional adapter for now.

Isolator might be borderline when it comes to current consumption

[Ryan]

OK, I've got a Fuel Tank Jr now! And it hums with the Reverberator! Only on outputs 1, 4, and 5 though... 2 and 3 are quiet. Go figure.

I also tried it with one of those Diago adapter isolators and it made quite a big difference but the hum was still audible.. greatly reduced though. I think this is a situation where the Diago can't help as much because the Fuel Tank Jr. is just not up to the challenge of a RRR. It's made to prevent problems of interference from improper isolation but this is a situation of not enough juice, I think, combined with not very well isolated, I think.