I often thought of a lab ratchet and velcroar (now suneater) in the same enclosure, but it was someone else who actually did it . That would definitely take care of all your nasty, textural desires.
You're last round of questions prompted me to do some fuzzhugger stacking to see what happens. I don't have a suneater (
), so I used my velcroar instead (older model, without the clip knob).
Velcroar->LR produced some cool results I wasn't totally expecting. Really filled the sound out, seemed to add some lows into the mix. Heavily gated setting on the LR produced some cool pulsing, glitchy tones with more body than I was expecting.
LR->Velcroar was cool, but really produced more variations of the two. I find there are some similar tones in the LR and the Velcroar, and it really just produced a wider variety of these tones.
One thing to note, the attack and compression of the Velcroar produces some strange sounds when stacking. Sort of pumping when you pick. My Velcroar has an added gain knob, which really helps in stacking. Not sure if this is a similar control to the degain toggle Tom added in the dual suneater that soni has.
I don't have a Fuzz Huger (
) so I used my newest spec Great Wall (from inside one of my combo pedals
) instead...
GW->LR was definitely cool. lots of wild tones in there, super splat and nasty stuff. Some of the same pulsing/glitchy stuff as the Velcroar->LR, but all in all much nastier.
LR->GW was my favourite of all. Again, the throbby/glitchy stuff is there when you use the gate, but when stacked in this order you get some really cool harmonics popping out, some very dissonant, but very appealing sounds. The tone control does wonders in this setup, too. Really accentuates various harmonics/frequencies coming out of the LR.
If you're looking to go combo I would say LR->GW (or huger if Tom can do that still) gets the widest variety and some of the coolest tones. I think I might rearrange my board and make some use of these sounds. Only caveat here is if you get the level too high on the LR you will produce some really wild pumping on the attack, so you might want to keep the level on the LR down a bit. You can compensate for this by putting it in the loop of a clean hugger if you want.
One more note, if you put the LR second you probably won't get the octave up sounds when stacked (I didn't) so there's some added functionality with LR first as well.
As far as the older models go, I don't have any of those really. I'm not as OG Fuzzhugger as Soni or MLC.
Tom Dalton wrote:I'm sure I could build a 10+ knob Great Wall
I'm sure you have.